Questioner: Is the witness-consciousness permanent or not?
Maharaj:
It is not permanent. The knower rises and sets with the known. That in
which both the knower and the known arise and set, is beyond time. The
words permanent or eternal do not apply.
Q: In sleep there is neither the known, nor the knower. What keeps the body sensitive and receptive?
M:
Surely you cannot say the knower was absent. The experience of things
and thoughts was not there, that is all. But the absence of experience
too is experience. It is like entering a dark room and saying: 'I see
nothing'. A man blind from birth knows not what darkness means.
Similarly, only the knower knows that he does not know. Sleep is merely a
lapse in memory. Life goes on.
Q: And what is death?
M: It is the change in the living process of a particular body. Integration ends and disintegration sets in.
Q: But what about the knower. With the disappearance of the body, does the knower disappear?
M: Just as the knower of the body appears at birth, so he disappears at death.
Q: And nothing remains?
M:
Life remains. Consciousness needs a vehicle and an instrument for its
manifestation. When life produces another body, another knower comes
into being, Q: Is there a causal link between the successive
body-knowers, or body-minds?
M: Yes, there is something that may
be called the memory body, or causal body, a record of all that was
thought, wanted and done. It is like a cloud of images held together
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