Q: Then, how do you know you are in the supreme state?
M: Because I am in it. It is the only natural state.
Q: Can you describe it?
M:
Only by negation, as uncaused, independent, unrelated, undivided,
uncomposed, unshakable, unquestionable, unreachable by effort. Every
positive definition is from memory and, therefore, inapplicable. And yet
my state is supremely actual and, therefore, possible, realisable,
attainable.
Q: Are you not immersed timelessly in an abstraction?
M:
Abstraction is mental and verbal and disappears in sleep, or swoon; it
reappears in time; I am in my own state (swarupa) timelessly in the now.
Past and future are in mind only -- I am now.
Q: The world too is now.
M: Which world?
Q: The world around us.
M:
It is your world you have in mind, not mine. What do you know of me,
when even my talk with you is in your world only? You have no reason to
believe that my world is identical with yours. My world is real, true,
as it is perceived, while yours appears and disappears, according to the
state of your mind. Your world is something alien, and you are afraid
of it. My world is myself. I am at home.
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